fixed : where can I get OS version 8.4.4 for AppleTV 3 ?

Question :

I was having a problem on my WiFi network so I had to reconfigure my AppleTV 3 from 2012. While doing so, I also wanted to do an update for the AppleTV-version of iOS. When I tried to do so, the AppleTV said I had version 7.6.2 installed and there were no automatic updates available. To be completely sure, I looked up my AppleTV 3 in the MacTracker.app and found that the Maximum OS listed there is version 8.4.4, so I searched online to see what info I could find on a 8.4.4 update.

I found that the 8.4.3 update was released around April 2020, and that it could be installed over USB using a Mac with iTunes on it… but on the Apple website Software update 7.6.2 is still listed as the latest release… https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202157

What is going on ?

Answer :

There is no problem… at least, there is no problem regarding the updates, the only problem is in the naming…

It’s just that the AppleTVs initially ran on iOS, just like the iPhones and iPads… (correction : the original AppleTV ran MacOSX) …but as the products drifted apart, the versions of iOS needed for various iDevices did too …so Apple finally split the old iOS up in iOS for iPhone, iPadOS for iPad and tvOS for AppleTV.

For the iPads this wasn’t really confusing as iOS 12 was succeeded by iPadOS 13. But for AppleTV the naming became extremely confusing : tvOS 9.0 was introduced almost simultaneously with and only for the 4th generation AppleTV (now called AppleTV HD) in autumn 2015, but the previous versions of AppleTV kept running versions of iOS, just anonymously :

  • Apple TV 1.0 = “Front Row” release = MacOSX “Tiger” 10.4.7tv (for Intel) = build 8N5722 = 20070321 iTV release
  • Apple TV 1.1 = “YouTube” release = 20070720 iTV release
  • Apple TV 2.0 = “Take Two” release = 20080115 iTV release
  • Apple TV 2.0.1 = “Genre” release = 20080328 iTV release
  • Apple TV 2.0.2 = “Network” release = 20080414 iTV release
  • Apple TV 2.1 = “MobileMe” release = 20080709 iTV release
  • Apple TV 2.2 = “HD” release = 20081002 iTV release
  • Apple TV 2.3 = “AirTunes” release = 20081119 iTV release
  • Apple TV 2.3.1 = “No Hax” release = 20090225 iTV release
  • Apple TV 2.4 = “Gesture” release = 20090624 iTV release
  • Apple TV 3.0 = “Genius” release = 20091029 iTV release
  • Apple TV 3.0.1 = “Reprise” release = 20091107 iTV release
  • Apple TV 3.0.2 = “Finale” release = 20100211 iTV release
  • TV release 4.0 = Apple TV 4.0 = iOS 4.1tv = build 8M89 = 20100901 aTV release
  • TV update 4.1 = Apple TV 4.1 = iOS 4.2tv = build 8C150 = 20101122 aTV release
  • TV update 4.1.1 = Apple TV 4.1.1 = iOS 4.2.1tv = build 8C154 = 20101214 aTV release
  • TV update 4.2 = Apple TV 4.2 = iOS 4.3tv = build 8F191m = 20110309 aTV release
  • TV update 4.2.1 = Apple TV 4.2.1 = iOS 4.3tv2 = build 8F202 = 20110322 aTV release
  • TV update 4.2.2 = Apple TV 4.2.2 = iOS 4.3tv3 = build 8F305 = 20110511 aTV release
  • TV update 4.3 = Apple TV 4.3 = iOS 4.3tv4 = build 8F455 = 20110801 aTV release
  • TV update 4.4 = Apple TV 4.4 = iOS 5.0tv = build 9A334v = 20111012 aTV release
  • TV update 4.4.1 = Apple TV 4.4.1 = iOS 5.0tv2 = build 9A335a = 20111017 aTV release
  • TV update 4.4.2 = Apple TV 4.4.2 = iOS 5.0tv3 = build 9A336a = 20111024 aTV release
  • TV update 4.4.3 = Apple TV 4.4.3 = iOS 5.0.1tv = build 9A405l = 20111117 aTV release
  • TV update 4.4.4 = Apple TV 4.4.4 = iOS 5.0.1tv2 = build 9A406a = 20111215 aTV release
  • TV update 5.0 = Apple TV 5.0 = iOS 5.1tv = build 9B179b = 20120307 aTV release
  • TV update 5.0.1 = Apple TV 5.0.1 = iOS 5.1.1tv = build 9B206f = 20120510 aTV release
  • TV update 5.0.2 = Apple TV 5.0.2 = iOS 5.1.1tv2 = build 9B830 = 20120605 aTV release
  • TV update 5.1 = Apple TV 5.1 = iOS 6.0tv = build 10A406E = 20120924 aTV release
  • TV update 5.1.1 = Apple TV 5.1.1 = iOS 6.0.1tv = build 10B831 = 20121129 aTV release
  • TV update 5.2 = Apple TV 5.2 = iOS 6.1tv = build 10B143 = 20130128 aTV release
  • TV update 5.2.1 = Apple TV 5.2.1 = iOS 6.1.3tv = build 10B329a = 20130319 aTV release
  • TV update 5.3 = Apple TV 5.3 = iOS 6.1.4tv = build 10B809 = 20130713 aTV release
  • TV update 6.0 = Apple TV 6.0 = iOS 7.0.2tv = build 11A502 = 20130723 aTV release
  • TV update 6.0.1 = Apple TV 6.0.1 = iOS 7.0.39tv = build 11B511d = 20131024 aTV release
  • TV update 6.0.2a = Apple TV 6.0.2 = iOS 7.0.4tv = build 11B554a = 20131114 aTV release
  • TV update 6.0.2b = Apple TV 6.0.2 = iOS 7.0.5tv = build 11B601 = 20140130 aTV release
  • TV update 6.0.2c = Apple TV 6.0.2 = iOS 7.0.6tv = build 11B651 = 20140221 aTV release
  • TV update 6.1 = Apple TV 6.1 = iOS 7.1tv = build 11D169b = 20140310 aTV release
  • TV update 6.1.1 = Apple TV 6.1.1 = iOS 7.1.1tv = build 11D201c = 20140422 aTV release
  • TV update 6.2 = Apple TV 6.2 = iOS 7.1.2tv = build 11D257c = 20140630 aTV release
  • TV update 6.2.1 = Apple TV 6.2.1 = iOS 7.1.2tv2 = build 11D258 = 20140717a aTV release
  • TV update 7.0 = Apple TV 7.0 = iOS 8.0tv = build 12A365c = 20140717b aTV release
  • TV update 7.0.1 = Apple TV 7.0.1 = iOS 8.1tv = build 12B4410a = 20141020 aTV release
  • TV update 7.0.2 = Apple TV 7.0.2 = iOS 8.1.1tv = build 12B435 = 20141117 aTV release
  • TV update 7.0.3 = Apple TV 7.0.3 = iOS 8.1.3tv = build 12B466 = 20150127 aTV release
  • TV update 7.1 = Apple TV 7.1 = iOS 8.2tv = build 12D508 = 20150309 aTV release
  • TV update 7.2 = Apple TV 7.2 = iOS 8.3tv = build 12F69 = 2015048 aTV release
  • tvOS 9.0 = build 13T396 = 20151029 ATV4 release
    • tvOS 9.0.1 = build 13T402 = 20151109 ATV4 release
    • tvOS 9.1 = build 13U85 = 20151208 ATV4 release
  • tvOS 9.1.1 = build 13U717 = 20160125 ATV4 release
  • TV update 7.2.1 = Apple TV 7.2.1 = iOS 8.4.1tv = build 12H523 = 20160125 aTV release
  • tvOS 9.2 = build 13Y234 = 20160321 ATV4 release
    • tvOS 9.2.1 = build 13Y772 = 20160516 ATV4 release
    • tvOS 9.2.2 = build 13Y825 = 20160718 ATV4 release
  • tvOS 10.0 = build 14T330 = 20160813 ATV4 release
    • tvOS 10.0.1 = build 14U71 = 20161024 ATV4 release
  • tvOS 10.1 = build 14U593 = 20161212 ATV4 release
  • TV update 7.2.2 = Apple TV 7.2.2 = iOS 8.4.2tv = build 12H606 = 20161212 aTV release
  • tvOS 10.2 = build 14W265 = 20170327 ATV4 release
    • tvOS 10.2.1 = build 14W585a = 20170515 ATV4 release
    • tvOS 10.2.2 = build 14W756 = 20170719 ATV4 release
  • tvOS 11.0 = build 15J381 = 20170919 ATV4 release
    • tvOS 11.1
    • tvOS 11.2
    • tvOS 11.2.1
    • tvOS 11.2.5
    • tvOS 11.2.6
    • tvOS 11.3
    • tvOS 11.4
    • tvOS 11.4.1
  • tvOS 12.0 = build 16J364 = 20180917 ATV4 release
    • tvOS 12.0.1
    • tvOS 12.1
    • tvOS 12.1.1
    • tvOS 12.1.2
    • tvOS 12.2
    • tvOS 12.2.1
  • tvOS 12.3 = build 16M153 = 20190513 ATV4 release
  • TV update 7.3 = Apple TV 7.3 = iOS 8.4.2tv = build 12H847 = 20190513 aTV release
  • tvOS 12.4 = build 16M568 = 20190722 ATV4 release
  • TV update 7.3.1 = Apple TV 7.3.1 = iOS 8.4.2tv2 = build 12H864 = 20190722 aTV release
    • tvOS 12.4.1
  • tvOS 13.0 = build 17J586 = 20190924 ATV4 release
  • TV update 7.4 = Apple TV 7.4 = iOS 8.4.3tv = build 12H876 = 20190924 aTV release
    • tvOS 13.2
    • tvOS 13.3
  • tvOS 13.4 = build 17L256 = 20200324 ATV4 release
  • TV update 7.5 = Apple TV 7.5 = iOS 8.4.4tv = build 12H885 = 20200324 aTV release
    • tvOS 13.4.5
    • tvOS 13.4.6
    • tvOS 13.4.8
  • tvOS 14.0 = build 18J386 = 20200916 ATV4 release
  • TV update 7.6 = Apple TV 7.6 (8130) = iOS 8.4.5tv = build 12H903 = 20200916 aTV release
    • tvOS 14.0.1
    • tvOS 14.0.2
    • tvOS 14.2 = build 18K57 = 20201105 ATV4 release
  • tvOS 14.3 = build 18K561 = 20201214 ATV4 release
  • TV update 7.6.2 = Apple TV 7.6.2 (8144) = iOS 8.4.6tv = build 12H914 = 20201214 aTV release
    • tvOS 14.4 = build 18K802 = 20210126 ATV4 release
    • tvOS 14.5

As you can see from the list above, there is no TV update 8.x yet… the version you’ve been reading about online is the “based on iOS 8.4.4”-version, which actually is TV update 7.5

So, if your 3rd generation AppleTV lists it’s OS version as 7.6.2 you already have the latest OS-version available (…at the time of writing this post : mid March 2021)

That’s it !

enjoy 😉

FYI : it’s good to know that there’s a slight hardware difference between the 2012 version and the 2013 version of the 3rd generation AppleTV :

  • A1427 = AppleTV3,1 = 3rd generation AppleTV (2012)
  • A1469 = AppleTV3,2 = 3rd generation AppleTV (2013)

NOTE : the procedure you are mentioning of upgrading or altering the version of the AppleTV OS by connecting the AppleTV to your Mac by USB-cable is a “jailbrake”, which Apple considers “illegal”…

fixed : stream video to Google Nest Hub from iPhone/iPad

Question :

We’ve just gotten ourselves a Google Nest Hub (the Google Home pod with a screen) in our kitchen. Since it has a screen, we would like to watch Netflix and/or live TV on it.

Is that possible ?

 

Answer :

Yes, you can stream video (and live TV) from your iPhone (or iPad) to your Google Nest Hub’s screen as if you were streaming to a Google Chromecast…

But…  even though it uses the Chromecast-isch protocol, the app developers have to add support for streaming to the Google Nest Hub as an extra… most services have already implemented support, but some are still working on it…

International streaming services :

  • Netflix : not yet (for now real Chromecast streaming only)
  • Amazon Prime : not yet (for now real Chromecast streaming only)
  • AppleTV+ : no (no support expected for some time to come as Apple and Google have only recently started to consider more compatibility between Apple’s AirPlay and Google’s Chromecast streaming protocols)
  • Disney+ : yes
  • YouTube : yes
  • Vimeo : yes
  • EyeTV : not yet

Local Dutch streaming services ( video-on-demand/VOD, catch-up TV & live TV ) :

  • ZiggoGo : yes
  • Videoland : yes
  • RTL XL : yes
  • KIJK : yes
  • NOS Play : yes
  • NPO Start : yes
  • Pathé Thuis : yes

To stream video (or live TV) from your iPhone (or iPad) to your Google Nest Home’s screen, the procedure is nearly identical for all services :

  • make sure the Google Nest Hub is ON
  • make sure the Google Nest Hub is on the same WiFi network as your iPhone (or iPad) – you can check this in the GoogleHome.app on your iPhone (or iPad)
  • turn on the streaming video service’s app on your iPhone (or iPad)
  • start the video you would like to stream
  • click on the Chromecast-icon (rectangular icon with the WiFi-sign over the bottom left corner) that is displayed (somewhere on the screen, usually at the bottom, top or side – depending on the app’s layout)
  • from the popup-list select the Google Nest Hub (which you have given a name like “Kitchen Display” in GoogleHome.app)
  • and start watching on your Google Nest Hub

That’s it !

enjoy 😉

 

fixed : AppleTV keeps getting new IP address continuously

Question :

I am using the IP Scanner (and LANscan) software to check my network performance whenever I encounter network problems. I have found that my AppleTV keeps getting multiple IP addresses from my router using DHCP…

What is going on and how can I fix this ?

 

Answer :

The most probable cause of your problem is that you are connection over WiFi and the AppleTV is positioned somewhere where WiFi-reception isn’t optimal, and where multiple base stations are giving an equally strong WiFi-signal, which is causing the AppleTV to constantly switch from a connection to the one WiFi-base station to the other and back again.

There is a slight chance that you have this problem when connecting over Ethernet LAN-cable also… in that case you might have some interference or data-loss on the cable which usually isn’t problematic, but still is sub-optimal…

The best and easiest way to fix this is to give the AppleTV a fixed IP-address.

To do so, do this (in tvOS 7.4 – for other versions of tvOS the actual screens may differ) :

  • unplug the AC-power cable from your AppleTV
  • restart your router (or unplug it from power for 30 seconds)
  • plug the AC-power cable back into your AppleTV
  • turn on your TV (the one that’s connected to your AppleTV)
  • turn on your AppleTV
  • goto Settings (the app that has a Sprocket/Gear-icon)
  • in the Settings-window, click on General
  • in the General-window, click on Network
  • in the Network-window, click on WiFi (or Ethernet if you use it)
  • in the WiFi-window (or Ethernet-window), click on Configure IP
  • in the ConfigureIP-window, make a photo of all settings or write them down (because this exact info is what you are going to enter manually), then click on Manual
  • in the IP-configuration window, roll the dials until the IP is set, then click OK
  • in the Subnetmask-configuration window, roll the dials until the Subnetmask is set, then click OK
  • in the Router-configuration window, roll the dials until the Router IP is set, then click OK
  • in the DNS-configuration window, roll the dials until the DNS is set (or use 008.008.008.008), then click OK
  • then wait for the setting so be accepted while the wheel spins
  • then exit, exit, exit until you’re back on the Home screen

That’s it !

Note : if you want to be completely sure that your AppleTV has accepted all settings, you can unplug and replug your AppleTV from power, but that is not as important as it used to be in older versions of tvOS – and you need to check afterwards in Settings to be completely sure

enjoy 😉